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EPISODE SUMMARY
In this deeply grounding and honest conversation, I sat down with Gina Luker, founder of The Shabby Creek Cottage and The Soft Life Society. Gina is a creative visionary, intuitive guide, and one of the fiercest advocates I know for joy, softness, and radical authenticity. For over 15 years, she’s been helping women reclaim their creative magic and shed the cultural conditioning that tells us we must do more, be less, and stay quiet.
Lately, Gina’s been putting her energy toward supporting people through what she calls the "manufactured chaos" we’re all living in—a deliberate and fear-based system designed to keep us small. In this episode, we explore how to meet that chaos with grounded presence, creativity, and meaningful connection.
We talk about the extinction burst of the patriarchy, what it means to move toward a matriarchal way of being that honours the highest good for all, and how to stay tethered to our inner compass while the world shakes and shifts. Gina offers soul medicine in the form of wisdom, reminders, and powerful reframes that will leave you feeling more hopeful, more connected—and maybe even a little rebellious in the best way.
A FEW THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT
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Why joy is not frivolous—it’s essential.
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How to observe chaos without absorbing it
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Alchemizing anger into action
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Grounding techniques to pull you back to yourself (barefoot walks, simple rituals)
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Why online friendships and community can be just as real—and healing—as in-person ones
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How feminine energy can help rebalance a world spinning off its axis
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What it actually looks like to embrace your authentic self in a world that often shames it
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Why creativity is your most reliable compass during uncertain times
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Letting go of the pressure to save the world while still lending a hand
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The truth about money and how it amplifies who you already are
SOUND BITES
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"The matriarchy is the highest good for all."
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"We have to focus on joy every day."
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"Community is not a one-way street."
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"Walking outside barefoot is grounding."
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"Ten minutes a day is all it takes."
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"Life is to savour it and enjoy it."
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"Your soul will never lead you astray."
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"That was medicine for my soul."
CALLS TO ACTION If this episode stirred something in you, I’d love for you to support this work. Join my Patreon to help keep these conversations going and get access to bonus content, meditations, and other goodies I create just for our community.
And if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and share it with a friend. That’s how we grow this beautiful circle—and how we get these conversations into the hearts of those who need them most.
RESOURCES + LINKS
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
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Patriarchy and the extinction burst
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The importance of grounding practices
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Creativity as guidance and resilience
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Building and rebuilding community with intention
This one’s tender, fierce, and exactly what we need right now. I hope it lands in your heart the way it did in mine.
FULL TRANSCRIPT
We're in the extinction burst of the patriarchy. This is the last dying breath and
it's not uniquely American. There has been a rise of fascism around the world and
fascism and patriarchy are so closely tied together. We're in the beginning of the
age of Aquarius. It's all about finding balance and the patriarchy,
which is the polar opposite of the patriarchy. And it's not just like women are in
charge and they're running the show that's not what the matriarchy is if the
patriarchy is all about power and control domination and submission Matriarchy is
about the highest good for all
Hello there, my lovely friends. It's your host, Kate Shepard. This is the Creative
Genius podcast. This podcast is all about how humanity is glitching.
I've been saying that for years and I think it's never been more obvious than today
and how creativity is the answer. For thousands of years, maybe even more, we've
been conditioned to shove down and internalize this rich,
radiant, infinite wisdom that lives inside of us, that tries to communicate to us
through intuition and gut instincts and desire and insights. And those are all the
languages of creativity, but we've been taught to diminish those things,
to suppress those things, to ignore those things at our collective peril,
Because without those things, the kind of world that's emerging now is the result.
So these conversations on the Creative Genius podcast feel more important than ever
before. And I feel extremely grateful to both have the bandwidth in my own personal
life to be able to create this show for you and honored to get so many yeses from
incredible people like our guest today, Gina Luker. Gina and I just had one of the
most grounding, soul -nourishing conversations I've had in a really long time. Gina is
the brilliant force behind the Shabby Creek Cottage and the Softlife Society. She's
been blogging and Pinteresting and doing amazing craft tutorials since really before
Pinterest even was a thing. She's built herself a pretty enormous platform and
recently I noticed that she was using that platform to name out loud what's
happening with all the chaos in the world today and Also use everything she's
learned in her whole life leading up to now To help support people to navigate this
chaotic time with grace and beauty and joy So that we can create a new world where
everyone thrives together. This conversation feels really important. We talk about the
extinction burst of the patriarchy and what that is and why it's happening and the
beautiful thing that's rising in its midst to take its place and your part in
creating that. Why creativity is our most trustworthy compass in any chaotic time,
but especially now. We talk about alchemizing anger into something useful and true
and helpful, how you really can meet and create a healing community for yourself
online. And Gina gives us a bunch of strategies that she's found really useful for
staying rooted when the world around you wants you to shrink. So if you've been
feeling overwhelmed or frozen or like you're the only one trying to live with heart
and intention in this crazy time, in this very noisy world. This is going to be a
bomb for your soul.
Part of how I support myself to create this show is obviously through my jewelry,
which you can check at LoveMorningMoon .com or KateShepardCreative .com. I also have a
Patreon that I put together for you in addition to these podcasts every other week.
I do bonus episodes where I speak candidly about what's going on for me and my own
creative practice, little insights. I'm having throughout the day guided meditations,
journal prompts and worksheets and sometimes full -on workshops. There's a growing
library of materials that I create for you to help you ground yourself and continue
to look inward and cultivate this incredible thing you have inside of you, your
creativity. Last Friday, I was at Granville Island in the public market, and I was
really grumpy.
And I'm the kind of person who, I don't really, I don't wanna make you mad at me.
I don't wanna ever make anybody mad at me. And so when I'm grumpy, I'm still sort
of curating your experience of me. So I'm still cheerful, even when I'm grumpy.
And a couple of weeks ago, my neighbor in the market, they put us in these little
squares of market tables. There's four of us at a time, and every week the market
configuration is different. So you get to hang out with a different friend every
time you're at the market. And a couple of weeks ago, I was sitting next to a
good friend of mine who I get along with really well. We always have good laughs
together. He's got a super huge sense of humor, very generous, very kind. I don't
usually, I would never associate the word grumpy with him, but he came in one day
and he was in a grump. He was in a really big grumpy mood and I didn't I didn't
know what was wrong. And he didn't lash out at us with it. You could just tell
that he needed space that day. And so one of us got him a fancy coffee with
chocolate whipped cream on top. And for the most part, we just gave him his space
and made sure he felt that he was loved. And then, so fast forward to last Friday,
when my grumpy day came up, and it was really, it was one of those days where I
was late for work. I got an annoying phone call on my way to work. I ran out of
gas on my way to work. When I got to work, the parking meter I needed to pay
didn't work. It was just one of those, and that was all before 9 .30 in the
morning. It was just one of those days. So I got to work and I was just grumpy
at everybody, but inside, I was smiling on the outside. And later that night when I
was at home, every second Friday I sit down and I record a private episode for the
Patreon. So this is just me kind of sitting on my couch with a cup of tea in my
hand all by myself and just talking about things that have come up for me, things
I've noticed, things I think might be helpful, light bulb moments I've had,
epiphanies I've had. They're just little juicy little moments of connection with me.
And these are bonus episodes that I record for the Creative Genius Patrons as a
thank you for the financial support they contribute to help me run the show. So I
was thinking about what I wanted to share in that episode, and I was still in this
really kind of grumpy mood, and I was thinking to myself, I wonder what the cost
is for me to corral all this energy inside of myself to manage my grumpiness so
that you don't know that it's there. I want you to have a certain experience of
me. I want to protect you from my own grumpiness. It's childhood trauma. I don't
want to get into it. But I'm sure we all have our own version of something like
this that we do. And I thought, but what is the cost of that for me in my
creativity? I spent all this extra energy, all day, all 10 hours that I was at
work that day, pretending I wasn't feeling something really big that actually really
did just need to be felt and need to have space and need to be loved.
And I got home and I was obviously exhausted. I mean, that makes perfect sense,
right? And you have to spend that much extra energy holding something down. Imagine
how much energy it would take to hold a big beach ball under the water all day
long. Your arms would be sore at the end of the day. And I thought, I wonder if
I hadn't done that, if I might have come home and felt inspired to make art. You
know, I don't have a lot of time, I'm a single mom, I'm quite busy, I gotta fit
it in where I can. And those evenings that I come home and I'm on my own, they're
perfect. But I was zonked when I came home that day. And so I sat down and I
recorded that as the topic of the bonus episode. It felt like a really important
point and I was really glad to be able to bring it to the Patreon. There's a
little mini blog post about it on Creative .com. But if you would like to hear more
content like that, if that, if these little nuggets would help you in your day, I
really do invite you to become a member of the Creative Genius Patreon. A big thank
you to Gina for everything that she shared with us in this episode. Honestly, I
feel like it's, there couldn't be a more perfect time for this particular
conversation. And I'm so grateful that she sat down and made the time to chat with
us. As you're listening today, think about a friend or two or five that you might
forward this episode to who might benefit from hearing some of what Gina and I are
talking about as a way of helping them navigate the days that we're walking through
together. And remember, please remember, you're not alone. Something incredible is
happening. And in order for that to happen, the other thing has to die. And So
we're walking through an enormous transition of humanity together. You're not alone.
And I really want you to remember that. Here's my conversation with Gina. I really
appreciate you making time to talk to me today. - I'm excited to talk to you today.
- Can you introduce yourself, who you are and the work that you do in the world?
- I'm Gina Laker and the owner of the website, this Chevy Creek Cottage. That's
where I started so long ago. Life has changed on the internet in the last 16
years, obviously. I started with a blog before Facebook and before Instagram existed,
before Pinterest existed. I started off as a DIY blogger, blogging about my home,
which I still create some content around my home, but these days I don't share as
much about my home and I share more about helping women stay calm amidst the chaos
that we're currently going through and with ways to be rebels,
pretend you're Princess Leia and be a rebel. I live in a 200 year old house in
North Alabama, me and my husband, and our cat wins. I'm an author and an artist,
and I'm currently working on a new book. - What's the new book you're working on?
It's still like in the very beginning stages but it's essentially a manifesto for
the matriarchy. How do I help women traverse this path from where we are now to
where we need to be for the matriarchy to rise? And what is your take on that?
Like where are we right now in the whole if you were to go back step way back
and look big picture? We're in the extinction burst of the patriarchy. This is the
last dying breath, and it's not just an American thing.
It's not uniquely American, because America is not unique at all, despite what a lot
of people think. We're not that unique. There has been a rise of fascism around the
world, and fascism and patriarchy are so closely tied together. But as we are,
and I'm not an astrology. But I do know this, as we rise into this new age of
Aquarius, humanity is going to shift along with it. And that's what's currently going
on in the cosmos. We're in the beginning of the age of Aquarius. And I'm here for
it because it's all about finding balance and the matriarchy, which is the polar
opposite of the patriarchy, right? And it's not just like women are in charge and
they're running the Sure, that's not what the matriarchy is. If the patriarchy is
all about power and control and domination and submission as roles,
the matriarchy is the highest good for all. And so how do we go from one to the
other? But I think we're in that. You know how if a kid needs to go down for a
nap, it's like kicking and screaming right before it passes out, we're at that
kicking and screaming phase. I've been saying, ever since I was a little girl, I
remember looking around at the world going, "Huh, we are not doing being humans as
well as we could." And it always perplexed me, and I was little, and I couldn't
really put my finger on it, but I often was like, "There's better ways. I can
think of some ideas of better ways of organizing an education system." Or, like, It
was always on my mind, and then it wasn't until I guess about four or five years
ago when I started doing this show that it really crystallized for me. I was able
to articulate like, "Oh, humanity is glitching. Something's wrong." And then I
meditated on that for a really long time, and what came to me was, "Oh, okay. We
have this rational mind that's useful and has an important role to play in the
human experience. And we also have this other set of intelligence, this more
invisible in its creativity. I call it creativity umbrella, but it's like desire and
intuition and instinct and inner know, like the divine feminine kind of gifts. Yeah,
it is very masculine versus feminine. And we've systematically for hundreds,
if not thousands of years, been taught to and shove down these gifts.
And so we're glitching because actually, and the image I have, and I've shared this
tons, I say this over and over again, but the image I always get is that it's
like of a sea turtle where you have the rational mind is one flipper and the
divine feminine like creativity, that intelligence that's animating the universe is the
other flipper. And if you just have one flipper, eventually you're just gonna go in
circles. And that's where we are. We're in this fascist, patriarchal circle.
Yeah. So, the part of me that's always intuited this my whole life is really
excited that we're at this point in our evolution.
I just got full body tingles saying that. It's time, and I feel like when I refer
to creativity, I think of her as a her. She's allowed this to go on for, because
she's so much more powerful than all of it. And I feel like she was just like,
okay, I'll let you go ahead, do it that way. Wear yourself out. Wear yourself out.
Do it that way. But now she's standing up and just shaking it all off and going,
no, like that really compassionate when a mother says to that toddler, no,
actually, you can't climb that tree to the top or whatever it is, that compassionate
knowing no, However, that's like big Kate, there's like spiritual Kate that can see
all of that and feel all of that and gets excited about that and it actually
brings me to tears because I just am so excited that of the reality that it means
we're going to be able to create for ourselves. Then there's human Kate who's like,
"Here, I'm a single mom with my two kids and I live in Canada and my 12 year
olds asking me questions about when Trump invades and are we going to be okay and
where will we hide and are the tariffs going to destroy my business and oh now
they're off again and they're on again and oh god look at what's happening in Gaza
and look at what's happening in the United States and look at human Kate is having
a really hard time knowing where to be and how to be in all of that in a
consistent way and I feel like I'm someone who's pretty resourced spiritually like
I've done a lot of work I've done a lot of inner reflection So I'm imagining and
I'm seeing in my community that people are just kind of glazing over and me too
sometimes, like me too sometimes. So that's what I wanted to talk to you about
today is how do we take everything that we know from our creative practices, right?
So many of us have had creative practices for so long and we've come right up
against uncertainty in our own work, even in a painting or in a project and we've
had to move like we have the skills to do this. But a lot of us,
I think, are feeling really lost right now and overwhelmed. So how do we do this?
Not that I have all the answers because I absolutely do not. And I know that's a
big question. I'm not putting it on you like it's your job to answer it, but this
is what's going on in my mind. But also, This is what I talk about a lot is I
think I put not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. There's so much good
about our society and we don't need to get rid of what is good in order to throw
the proverbial bathwater away. Like the structures behind capitalism are smart but the
policies around it. I'm just simply talking about American policies because I don't
know that well. But I do understand American policies really well.
I have a history degree, so this is my jam. I understand the historical references
and all that good stuff. The pendulum, when it swings too far one way, it has to
swing back as far the other way. And right now, it has swung really far to the
right to conservative values. It's not really, it just seems that way, because
they're louder, the media expands the voice of that party,
because it's all conservative around in America. And those folks are getting tax cuts
by perpetuating fear and anger and misogyny,
right? That's what it all boils down to is text that's, believe it or not, because
the rich wants to stay rich, but it will have to swing back the other way and it
will all come crumbling down. And I hope not everything. I hope the baby does not
get thrown out with the bathwater because there is a lot of good in our society.
And we progressed a lot in the last 20, 25 years.
But now we're seeing that being chipped away again. And the only thing I know for
sure he is, once again, American reason, but I understand that America resonates out
into the world in ways that some other countries just don't, because we're the
bullies of the world, let's be honest. We have the most weapons and martialized
warfare is are number one industry, and I'm not proud of that, but I can't solve
that today. So I'm saying all this to hit to the point that there's going to have
to be this master shift, what it appears like, because from what I understand,
the rest of the world thinks Americans have lost their mind, but they haven't lost
their minds, because the majority of us do not feel this way, first and foremost.
Secondly, they're giving preference on social media, on mainstream media to those
voices to make them sound louder, to drown out those of us with voices of reason.
And if I'm being truly honest with you, I am of that camp that it was not a free
and bare election. And so I don't even think it was elected in the first, but
that's what happens when people with so much power are so corrupt in our systems.
And so all of that has to be cleaned out. I don't like it, it's a little
comfortable, don't get me wrong. But also,
I just trust the divine timing of the universe.
The part of me that has learned to take a step back and instead of being triggered
immediately falling into panic mode, I just take a step back and I get a better
perspective and I ask myself, what lesson am I supposed to learn from this? Where
is the highest good? What is conspiring in a way to make humanity as a whole
better because of what we're currently going through? because it always does get
better eventually. But there has to be darkness for you to appreciate.
Well, I don't like that we're currently living in the dark. Don't get me wrong. I
don't like that at all. But I do know that focusing on Joey and personally,
right? My thing is we have to focus on joy every day, because joy is what gives
us hope, and hope is what saves humanity. So if we, in a million little ways,
focus on being rebelliously joyful, like despite all odds,
find every ounce of joy throughout the situation,
whether it is the sun is shining today, or I got stuck, hate today,
whatever that joy looks like for me, I am conscious and curating joy as much as
humanly possible, because the more of us that seek and experience joy, the more we
raise the collective vibration as to light faster.
There's a little mechanism that fear has in almost all of us, and it's brilliant if
you think of it from like a strategy. Fear itself is the little person with
strategies to survive. That fear goes, "Yeah, that sounds great,
but actually if you spend all your time being joyful, you're not going to be able
to feed your family, you're not going to be able to..." But that's, yeah, so do I.
But that's the little objections that, there's so many other little objections that
pop up inside with like, how dare I be joyful right now? I should be out
protesting. I should be writing letters. I should be only doing those things. How
did you train yourself to,
in those moments when you were super triggered,
no to cultivate joy, no to pull back? Was there a, how do you learn,
how does So for somebody who that isn't a habit yet for them, how do they do
that? - Ironically, this is what I teach. Inside of membership is, I call it the
soft life society, and we talk about structuring your life around the principle of
seeking habits, activities, just beings on a daily basis.
Seek out healthy hormones, because fear and the shock and all tactics that what
they're doing is traumatizing people on a massive scale. And it is to spike your
adrenaline to get you numb, so that they can pull those through and do what they
want to do. If we look at that, and we're like, no, thank you, I don't, I'm not
buying into that. And we recognize it because that's the first thing. The antidote
to fear is understanding, Right if you understand why they're doing it you look at
it and you're like that's crazy I ain't buying into it, and I've been saying that
since the beginning rates. It's like it all started I was like, no, that's they're
adrenaline for them They're trying to rile you up to get you angry and they've
successfully done this through Fox news kind of stuff for Years now, right and
they've riled up this like small fan base, the hardcore fan base, they're losing
because those people are losing so much, but when you recognize it,
it's just like when you have witnessed abuse, especially like narcissistic abuse,
right? When you go to therapy and you've healed yourself enough to recognize the
patterns of narcissists, then when you see it, you can spot it from a mile away.
- Right. - And it's the exact same thing, 'cause there are use and rewards to
playbook to do it with. The gaslighting, shopping, all of the, oh, let me take this
away from you so that I can give you the solution. Oh, thank you. - Thank you.
- Uh -uh, no. So I stay grounded because I intentionally curate a lie where I do
grounding things in the morning, And then I have to lay in the grass sometimes to
ground myself because once you've uncovered all of the chaos and you understand what
it feels like for inner calm and you worked on it, I live on the corner between
practical and magical. I don't, I kind of straddle that line in between the two,
right? I need to understand the science behind what it works and I do understand
the science behind what it works, but I approach it from a magical perspective
because it makes like more whimsical and it brings me more joy to go and watch the
sunrise because it makes my day more beautiful versus understanding the red light
from that percentage of sun over the sunrise creates a chemical reaction in the
brain. Like it's a lot more whimsical and fun and joy feel to just soak up and
worship the sun in the morning for the whimsy and the beauty and know that the
science is working in the background, right? So when you have understanding and when
you know why things work and you know how things work, you can recognize it and I
call it observing and not absorbing. I'm not going to let them steal my inner
peace. I have boundaries like crazy. And that applies to everybody, including the
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sign up for the newsletters while you're there. How do your boundaries come into
being? How do you manage them? How do you safeguard them, what are they? - Well, I
guess it depends on what it is. - I had to get through a lot of work and covering
a lot of trauma to be able to get to that point. And I'm not a therapist. I've
just done a lot of work in understanding trauma as a coach,
basically a live coach, although I don't want to tell myself that. However, helping
women heal through that is important to me, which is why we We have a sort of a
therapist inside a membership, have recessions and stuff. Do you actually feel it?
And not just some random girl on the internet tells you, "Hey, you need to kill
your trauma." No, let me give you a professional on a flat or a sort of a vetted
professional that I know does amazing work. - How do you protect yourself?
You've created, you've cultivated this joy, you've cultivated this magic and this deep
inner peace. How do you live in reality? Because the reality is this stuff is
happening right now and we can't just hide from it But where's the line of
protecting that inner peace, but also staying open? Because when I get angry about
it and I get angry about it every day don't you be wrong when I get angry about
it instead of just sitting and Saving in that anchor I take that anger and I use
it and I put putting into action. I follow my representatives, write letters, play
in. There's another protest march going on, not this total weekend, but the following
week. I take action through the anger. I don't ignore the anger.
I'm not fucking my head in the sand. I'm alpha -modeling that anger and putting it
into action in meaningful ways, not just spouting off on the internet,
which I do that a lot, don't get me wrong, but it's also about taking meaningful
action. And it's not just action towards the government itself, but it's also,
oh, you wanna strip away black history? I have a huge platform. Let me list up
like historians. You wanna take away LGBTQIA? Okay,
let They use my platform to raise money for a cause that supports them.
Do or fight back in ways that are actually effective and I'm not just chasing my
tail around looking for things to do. When you are calm and when you are centered,
you can get that perspective again and you can go, "Okay, I can either call my in
and complain, which that's good and valid too. We have to be it occasionally or I
can call and be it to my representative's office and tell them how I feel and what
I think because they're working for me. I don't work for them. They work for me.
So that's how I like get through the anger is just by alchemyzing it and actually
taking action because when you take action you don't feel help when you're making a
difference you don't feel helpless and that's what I do every day is not only help
those but I just help my community as a whole by giving them resources and
inspiration and community which is what we need to survive this chaos.
For somebody who doesn't Feel that they have a community or that their community is
maybe online or not tangible and really in their life But they want that what is
what what do you what would you say to that person to start that? concept on me
Like math ready. It's really funny. How like people will make friendships in my
comment section. And I've had it happen multiple times with people saying, "Yeah, I
met someone so in your comment section." I do have intimate private communities,
paid communities, where that's a little more possible, where we do like Zooms and
stuff. But also, you have something to say, get out there and say it and form your
own community. Because if you Can find 50 followers, which is not many,
honestly. When you think about it, if I told you I had 50 followers, you probably
wouldn't invite me to your podcast. However, if you had a dinner party tonight with
50 people in your dinner party and you had not started anything, you would be
freaking out, right? - Yeah. - 50 people is a lot of people. And people is a lot
of people.
If you feel like you don't have a community at all, get on Instagram, get on
TikTok, go find a Facebook group. Online community is just as if it is just as
bad. However, also, if you want a personal community, join the party that you align
with.
Go volunteer for an organization that aligns with your values.
Because if I were to go and volunteer at LGBTQA + outreach organization,
if I were to go donate at one of those, I can guarantee you like 90 percent of
those people are going to align. So go align with the organization that are filled
with the people that align with you, and you will easily, quickly, fun community
just by going and being of service to other people because that's the thing about
community It's not a one -way street. If you have to be as helpful as you hope to
get help Yeah, I think we've forgotten a little bit how to be how to I know as a
I'm 48 years old and I look back to my high school years and 20s and even early
30s a little bit more As a time when it felt a lot easier to make friends, like
I almost didn't have to do anything and they were just, there were just always
people at, you know, and parties to go to. There were people that were they, the
right people. Whether they were the right people or not, it was always easier to be
in a community of people. And now I've got kids and I'm driving everybody. And I
have to really structure even the people that I know and I love and I want to
spend time with. It's okay, I can have coffee with you in two weeks, but it's
hard, It's hard, so it's a little bit harder that way, but also I do, and I want
to echo what you said about social media community. I've made some of the most
wonderful connections and friends with people that I've never met who I honestly,
when I think about it, I'm like, crazy that I've never met them. I feel like
they're a soul friend just in the comments on Instagram and it's blossomed into real
things. So that is real too. My real last best friends, I Five friends that are
really close to you. Some of them live really near me. Some of them You know have
one that was in Detroit and another one that lives in New Orleans One lives a
couple hours away. I met all five of those women on Instagram. Hmm. Yeah
And like we're real life friends. I've been to see them. They've been to see me
Some live relatively close to me like 20 minutes away and like we a dinner earlier
this week. I met all of them on Instagram. - Yeah, it is a real wonderful source
of friendships. It has been for me too. And I love what you're saying about
volunteering and alchemyzing that those big feelings of anger and rage and even
helplessness. - Well, if you're doing, if you're taking action, you're not going to
feel helpful. You're gonna feel hopeful.
Helpful, you feel Yeah. Right. What are some of the things that you do to ground
yourself on a day -to -day basis? It's important for me, and I think it's interesting
because in the last four months, honestly, even in this chaos,
I personally have found so much. My platform is growing, opportunities are growing,
and it's only because I got really loud about what I was passionate about. Now, I
found that number one, walking outside barefoot, in the grass, barefoot,
however I know it's still cold, especially in Canada. So if you put your hand on a
tree trunk, your bare hand on the tree, it does the exact same thing. You're just
getting islands directly from the earth and going to do the same thing. So if you
can't, like, it's 80 degrees outside here today in North Alabama, right?
So I laid it in the grass just yesterday. When it's 30 degrees outside,
I don't put my hand on a tree tree and I just sit, stand there. If you don't
have a big tree, you can also get a branch. It needs to be wood as late,
but a stick, a branch, or whatever, piece of wood, bare hand,
hold the stick. When when it touches the earth, it's still going to do the same
thing. So even if the tree is not growing, but you're connecting and you're
grounding, it's almost like an electrical current in a way and you're grounding with
the earth. That's literally the best way to do is contact with the earth.
But other than that, breathing, meditation, journaling, going for a walk outside is
the best thing. And if you can't go outside for whatever reason, you're walking on
like a walking pad or a treadmill. Key is to listen to birds singing,
because if you listen to birds singing six minutes a day, it lowers your blood
pressure for 24 hours because it signals to your brain that you're safe, 'cause when
we hear birds singing, We hear safety and it's our caveman brain and that's a whole
study of a thing is legit. Like it's a real thing. So here in bird sing,
bird watching, that's a really good one as well. And it is simple things. It's not
extraordinary, expensive, complicated, time consuming.
The absolute best thing you can do is go for a walk outside with a friend. 10
minutes a day will change your life. It doesn't, you don't have to get your heart
rate up. You don't have to do any of that. But it is the combination of sunshine,
bird singing, moving your body and being with someone else, even if that's a pet,
by the way. So if you had a dog, pick your dog for a walk, 10 minutes a day, do
it every day for 30 days, it'll change your life. - I feel like that's 100 % true.
Yeah, all the times I felt really stuck. Walking has always been the portal that
opens the way. - From a hormonal perspective, it gives you the four major hormones
that you need, the happy hormone. Dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphin gives
you all four of those in like 10 minutes. - That's it, eh? 10 minutes a day. - 10
minutes a day is all it So that's what I was going to ask you is for somebody
who's feeling frozen because my sense is that a lot of people are feeling just
frozen right now, not even fight or they're not even at the point of alchemizing
anger. No, they're free. They're in freeze because they're freeze on fight or flight
and then they're normal. Yeah. So for the person, a lot of people on freeze, that's
the point of shopping off is to get as many people in freeze as possible. So how
do we help thaw each other out it walk going out for the time and go for the
walk. Go for a walk, talk to a friend, don't isolate yourself. Um,
eat real food. Yeah. Most likely it's not too much. That's a Michael Pettle and
thing, but it is very much true. Cause there's nutrients in there and it will
nourish your body in a different way. Also not just nourish your body, but nourish
your mind. So stop listening to the Murder Mystery Podcasts, watching "Traumath
Field," crime shows on television. Stop watching the news constantly.
Get on and credit it. I would say unbiased, but I don't know if anything is
unbiased anymore. A non -triggering news source. And take in just a little bit.
You don't have to save the world. You just have to be informed. enough that you
don't feel lost, a little bit of what's going on in the world,
but you don't have to know everything that's going on in the world, right?
And then drink some water,
very core basic.
That's really, truly it is those five tenants and drinking your water,
eating well, being mindful of what you consume, but also be kind to yourself
because, like, bump through this and beating yourself up because it's hard for you
to get out of bed today, that's only going to make it worse. So just give yourself
the grace to say, "Okay, I may not be able to do everything today, but I can
drink glass of water or I and eat some strawberries today,
or I can at least step outside and get some sun today. Like one tiny step towards
a larger goal is better than no steps. - Yeah, it is so easy to, it's that all or
nothing thing. I do feel like a lot of us, especially women,
have this like, I either fixed it all or I completely failed, And it's like this
pressure to That's because the patriarchy has convinced us that it's our job to
carry the way to the world When you set that down and you're like no, I'm gonna
do that free things and and I'm gonna let somebody else And a lot of people they
think because you're not doing what they think you should do Or as much as they're
doing because they're still stuck in step in martyrdom. They have the right to
attack you over it. And that's where the boundaries come in. And you're like, "No,
I'm not gonna... I will remove myself from this situation. I'm not responsible for
saving the entire... I am responsible for doing my part for carrying my weight, the
weight of my responsibility." But women have been tasked with the weight of the
responsibility of everybody for managing their emotions to managing their time to
managing their location by shuttling them you're there in everywhere by managing
excessive amounts of mental labor that we do is insane and people don't even realize
and until we begin to lay that down and stop playing the martyr and and force
other folks to be respond, and I'm not talking about, I'm predominantly talking about
start forcing them to be responsible for their own behavior, for their own needs,
for their, I didn't get married to raise a kid. Men weaponize incompetent every day
at work everywhere. And the more we start to stand up to it and refuse to opt
into it, the better life on Earth will get. It's gonna get rough for a while
'cause that's gonna be bad. And to fix it is to opt out a lot of it,
honestly. - It makes a perfect sense, 'cause if we're so occupied in this storm of
this impossible task, like it's actually impossible to carry that whole mental load
and Okay, I get anything right no matter what you do. You're too thin, you're too
fat, you're too this, you're too successful, you're too not successful. Like you
can't, we can't ever get it right. But we're always trying and we're always falling
all over ourselves at trying and we're having lonely nervous breakdowns 'cause we're
failing, we're failing at that impossible task. And I'm just, as you're saying this,
I'm seeing this picture of when we set that down, when we set that possible task
down, there's a silence that can emerge, and then we can start to actually hear
what's at our own depth. And then we access our real power and our real offering,
because actually that thing that impossible task of running around and trying to
manage it, that wasn't what we're good at. That's not what our offering was about.
There's actually such incredible power at our depth that the world desperately needs,
but we can't actually even hear it or recognize it or know what it looks like or
learn how to trust it again if we're busy, distracted with this impossible task.
And I think for a lot of us, and maybe I'll just speak for me, as I come into
closer contact with
that incredibly radiant intelligence at my own depth, I will say it's scary because
it is so powerful and it is not like anything I've ever seen before. It's not
quantifiable the way the rational mind or the masculine world is and what, and we're
at that I was indoctrinated into. So I feel like - - And also, you don't have
examples of what it's supposed to look like. And we've always lived up to somebody's
ideal for so long we've always had an example to strive for but there is no
example for your true essence of authenticity because nobody can replicate it and so
yeah it's there you have to be okay with being the weird one honestly that's the
only way I can really put it is you have to get to that point of you care so
much that you don't care what other people think, and not in a rebellious way.
Cause I did that for a long time. I don't care. I don't care what people think.
That's a defense thing. Whenever you're like, boldly proclaiming,
I don't care. Well, you do care. Or you wouldn't be saying that that's projection,
right? Actually not Caring what people think is the most beautiful boundary because
You're not fighting back with them when they're Things nasty things whatever. It's
just a projection of your own insecurities. It's not me I don't care how you see
me because what you think about me ain't none of our business. Mm -hmm so I think
women this is what my book is about right like all these stages that we have been
covered is It's interesting. I had a, just right before I sit down the recording
with you, I had a session with a private client at Edge Sport with her one -on
-one. I've been working with her a long time now and she's like really far advanced
in this whole progression, this path, this journey that we're going through. And she
and I were talking about how she is to this point nail, where she's claiming
sovereignty, which is really wild for her, but it's such a beautiful thing to watch
women get to that point, and she was like, "Why couldn't I have just gotten
faster?" And I told her, "It's very similar to a snake, right? It's shed skin, and
then a few months go by, and that new skin becomes weathered by the elements,
and it grows and expands, and it's ready for it it shed that skin again. But if
it shed all of the layers of skin that it needs to, like all at one time, it
would not exist. It would vanish. And I think we are the same way.
Like we have to go through all these layers of shedding to be able to get to that
true root of who we are and the sovereignty. And not that, Like,
when I was 40, I colored my hair blue for the first time, and I just turned 51.
So I've had it blue for 11 years now, blue, green, whatever shade it made out to
be today. But today it's blue. When I was 40, I was like, yeah, this is my own
care moment. I'm going to live my best life, right? What I was really doing was
like taking off the mask that I had all and putting on somebody else's mask To try
to see where I fit in into the world, but I try to line all these different masks
over the years and
Realize that true authenticity Is not trying on a new mask.
It's just Eliminating the need for a mask there's a lot of power and momentum
invested collectively in having us keep our masks on. - It's control.
- Yeah. - If you fit it with a mask, then they can control you, which has a lot
to do with the church, but I won't step a bone into it. - We've internalized a lot
of that stuff. And so I even see myself like wanting that freedom from the mask or
wanting that wanting, I know that feeling of when she wanted it to hurry up.
I get it. Like I get that. And actually when I first started seeing what was
happening in the United States from Canada after January 20th, and oh my God, I
just, I couldn't understand why everybody wasn't just not going into work today and
storming the castle. I couldn't understand why it seems like half of the people are
still asleep or don't understand or aren't angry angry enough. And I remember talking
to my mom about it, because I was scared. At that time, there were like bigger
threats of annexation and the Canada being the 51st state. And Trump was calling our
Prime Minister, Governor, and it was very scary. It was very triggering and very
scary. Because we are small and you guys are huge. And it was, it isn't a joke.
It isn't. No, it's not. But, and I remember talking to my mom, just balling my
eyes out and just being so scared and feeling so worried and so angry. And she was
like, "Sweetheart, you have to give them time. You have to give them time.
You have to give them time. It's a process. It's not going to happen overnight. But
it's happening." I wonder if it is happening. And it's been happening. It's been
happening. It just doesn't show up. It just doesn't show up in the media, right?
So here's why We didn't storm the capital on January 20th, right?
So we had gone through the thing on January 6th, four years prior. And it was so
disgraceful and it was so
anti -constitutional, but literally they should have barred him from ever running again
because he's a traitor. He incited an insurrection. He is straight up a traitor.
And why they didn't court -martial him and try him through the Marines or the Army
or something, I don't know, but that's not my responsibility.
I do call every day and I'm like, "Do you need another reason to impeach him?"
Because he broke laws again today. How many laws are you going to label right
before you're going to file a letter to him? I do this almost every day. I call
it every day. I'm not bringing up impeachment every day, but I call of every day
through Friday. So, the thing is though, I don't think people realize,
maybe they do. I love Canada, first of all. Like Prince Edward Island,
Canada is the hands down, the most magical place I have ever been in.
I am obsessed with PDA, I found my soul again at a very dark time.
So I have huge love. Your people are so kind.
I have never felt so safe in my life because there are more guns than people.
Our kids get shot every day. My friends and I have almost all had this conversation
where we don't even go to the movies anymore because we're a favorite thing to get
shot at the movie theater. When I moved from a lived in Huntsville,
which is a city, which has a huge village with Terry Bayes and the whole night
watch, right? I don't want to have from where I live now. Right before we moved,
there was a theater shooting like five minutes from a hell. And I haven't been to
the movie theater in a, I don't even know. I'm out of it once in the last two
years because we're afraid to go to the mall. We're afraid to go to the movies.
We're afraid to go to a concert. We're afraid to go places where there are a lot
of people because, again, there are more guns than there are people. Our military is
also like armed to the heel, and it would not, he pardoned the January 6th people.
- It would. - Yeah. - Looking for a reason to enact martial law.
And we knew that if we gave him a reason, it would be 10 -term force. - And I
should've, I was joking when I say storm the castle. I didn't mean storm the
capital, but, and I didn't even mean use violence to, like That's not what I meant.
I just meant why were reasonable grown -ups on either side of the party impeaching
this man? Why wasn't high -level military in the US? Presumably even though he fired
the top guy, there are highly educated PhD -level historians in the military who
understand. Where were those people who, to defend the Constitution, that was what I
was saying. Like, where were those people? Why weren't they reacting? I agree with
you because our president's taken oath to the Constitution. It does not say for four
years. Yeah. They just take an oath to the Constitution, which means literally
they're taking that oath for the rest of their life and they know what's going on.
They have just now, like in the last week or two, started to speak out. It has
taken them weeks and weeks to struggle. And I
will say, as a white woman, I know that for far too long in our history, people
of color were the ones that had to lead the brigade, because white people thought
it was beneath. I don't think that. A lot of white people do. This time, white
people will have to lead the brigade. And I believe we will have a revolution of
sorts. I don't see him lasting four years. Either he will pass away because he is
just not in great health, or he just won't make it because that will impeach him.
They'll eventually get to a point to where the people will be so disgruntled that
people in Congress will realize that they won't be able to keep their seat if they
continue to back. I had this feeling, I was very doom and gloom,
and my nervous system was flooded for most of the time until April 2nd,
April 1st, April 2nd. And it was some, I'm not an astrological person either, but I
felt like it was that big of a shift for energetically. I could feel, and then
coinciding with that energetic shift was Cory Booker and the Wisconsin Supreme Court
race. And something happened, I woke up after those two events and I was like, Oh,
it's actually going to be okay. Like this, and when I meditate and I, and sometimes
I'm so angry, I'm like, why don't you just swoop in there and the, this wise,
compassionate voice just keeps coming up saying, sweetheart, they have to burn
themselves out. This has to happen with Reagan, right? The same thing happened. I
think it was Herbert Hoover. Who? No, is that right? No,
it's not right. It's a test. I Should know this. I do know this. It's just not
coming to me right before FDR the guy who put in the tariffs
Like the beginning of the Great Depression It's great at the economy so bad that
once he got voted out of office
Republicans who historically I don't want anybody to think things of Republican in
the United States can balance a budget or take care of money, right? The economy,
historically, every damn time. But here's the good, the hope,
here's the hope. Okay. After FDR got elected, like he did,
sir, several terms in a row, don't get me wrong, but like for 20 years. There was
a Democrat if that was president, right? And for 60 years,
Congress was a Democrat. So they not have swung the pendulum that a little bit,
and Reagan had a lot to do with that. The church has a lot to do with that. The
church is why Republicans are so powerful in the United States. Churches are the
most corrupt institutions like there is they're worse than they got very anti
-churched by the way you didn't know about me. The good news is once all the once
this death settles from this chaos in our lifetimes we won't have to worry about
they're not gonna have control and hopefully they'll learn the lesson so that we
don't have to replicate this. Yeah My sense is that this is the moment in the
history of humanity where not
only does that divine feminine wisdom get to come into the light and really lead,
but it also, because of its own intrinsic wisdom and intelligence, will understand
how to integrate that masculine energy in a Sustainable bounce way and there won't
be the need for that polarity quite so much anymore Like I feel like that's we've
gone through one. We've gone through the other and this well We haven't been through
a matriarchy that way. We haven't had the feminine energy that much it existed on
earth It's it's been two thousand years since yeah, it's been over two thousand
years. That's been a minute
We haven't experienced it in a long time and in an empirical sense,
the way that we think of things, it's probably been sort of like, we have had
track that it was, that there was really truly a matriarchy. Now there are a few,
there are a few societies even that somewhat operate that way, like Costa Rica is
one, but I think, because, listen, you don't have to to be a woman to have
feminine divine energy or to have the great balance of both, right? I would love to
see Pete Buttigieg be our president because he is that beautiful balance of both.
He embodies intelligence and commands with his presence,
which is a masculine thing, right? Not really intelligent, but but the commanding,
the owning, the presence, the stature. However,
he also has this creativity and softness and this trotness and this appreciation that
he is that beautiful balance of both energies. I think the pendulum is going to
have to swing more toward feminine energy before we find that balance again.
And I've been saying this since the beginning of all of this. It's a good thing
that all of this is happening. It doesn't necessarily feel like it on a day to day
because we're walking through a forest fire and the coals are hot under our feet
and it's very uncomfortable and there's smoke everywhere and it's confusing and all
the cylinders are firing. But actually this is a really good thing because what's
burning down really wasn't working. Really didn't include everybody. Really wasn't fair
to everybody. There was so much injustice. Yeah. And we didn't get to,
like when I think about what's the purpose of life, really, it's to enjoy it.
It is. It's to savor it and enjoy the process of living.
And not to reach for some arbitrary goal and it's just to experience life is the
universe experiencing itself. And the systems that we created made it so that so
many people never had a chance to enjoy themselves. And that makes my soul weep.
And that is why I'm so glad that it's burning down because now all of these people
are gonna have in the new world that we're creating. So here we are, we're in the
middle of the fire, it's all burning down, we're creating a new world together. We
are going to get outside and go for walks with our neighbors. We are gonna
volunteer in ways that may seem small, but that actually feel good,
even if they don't feel like they're mountains in one day, we're going to ground
ourselves with the earth, we're going to connect to. And the other thing is about
that one, I wanted to say that when we were talking about that. It's so interesting
that a little maple mega movement up here, like it's pretty scary. It was like,
this one of the provinces had been appealing to the mega people down in Florida to
interfere, stop the tariffs, give us a chance to win the election, and then we can,
and then we'll win, and then we'll align with you. And that's like blatant election.
Like, you can't do that. So I wrote this comment, just something like, "Hey, this
person in Alberta is really trying to hurt Canada." And the comment from the
commenter was, "Oh, go hug a tree. Go, you sound like you're..." And I was like,
"So interesting. There was a moment in my life when but I might've thought, "Ew,
what an insult, why are you white?" But I immediately was just like, "That actually
sounds great, good reminder." Yes, I'm gonna go do that. But just to be on the
lookout for the ways that we're shamed or the ways that the system is trying, the
old system is trying to shame us, actually sometimes those things are the very
things we need to be doing and maybe they're good reminders of-- - When you laugh
at the people who bring them up, I feel like that's the best plan of an action
towards them, because if you laugh at them, you're like, "Yeah, you're right. I
should." And you're swabbed. Did you know that the idol ends from the blah, blah,
blah? I will get really nerdy and just like over -explain, and they feel so stupid.
I love it. Yes, you want to be petty. I'm not going to lie. Like, I know how to
be petty, and I can be. I think that's good. But you have to put some shame in
there because that's what they're trying to do is shame. And so if you hand it
back to them on like a gold platter, I found that is the best thing to do. I
love it too. That's a really good boundary. Yeah. I love it. Okay. So how can I
and maybe other listeners who are listening to this going, okay, I asked you a
little while ago what happens if someone's feeling a little bit lost or what to do
and I loved your answer. You said, come sit with me. How can we come and sit with
you? You can find me on all social platforms at the Shabby Creek Cottage or you
can find my website where you can find all the things at the Shabby Creek Cottage
.com. My magazine and my membership and my classes and you can also just find...
I've been blogging a long time and so there's hundreds of posts there and really
good actionable things. So there's some good things there. And yeah, I'm always up
for making new friends. If you're kind and if you want the highest good for
everybody, we want you to enjoy it. I'm going to make sure I put that in the show
notes too. I hope the world understands that what you see online and on the news
and the chaos that you're seeing is not the truth of who Americans are. It's this
orchestrated, manufactured circus that they're using for their own nefarious motives?
- I think most of us understand that Canadians, I can't speak on behalf of all
Canadians, but by and large for the most part we understand, it almost feels like
you've been infected with a virus and you're fighting a virus. Like that too,
and there are moments, I had this, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I had this
like insight the other day, and I don't know where it came from, but I was like,
you know what? I actually think a lot of these men, where those people have talked
about alien sightings, this is getting a little bit off side, sidebar, but that
people talk about alien sightings lately, these little ships. And remember that there
was like helicopters, and like a couple months ago, I actually had this vision of
aliens being coming down and being invisible to us undetectable and that they've
actually taken over certain people and that these people are not actually, because
you've seen these men like Marco Rubio and even JD Vance to a certain extent, they
used to say different things. They did used to say different things. Many changes
people. Yeah. Powered people. It really does. No, listen, it doesn't change you.
It expands who you are. Money doesn't change you, it just makes you more of the
war. So if you're a good caring person, you're just going to hear even deeper. Look
at Dolly Port. Yeah. Why can't she lead that? Why? She should be leading the USA.
But yeah, Dolly for president made the list saying Dolly is gold.
She is one of a kind. Money is only an amplifier. And these people were corrupted
by Really too much power too much money. I think Marco Rubio the sad thing is I
think he knows what he's doing is wrong And he looks like he has this guilty
conscience And he feels stuck and he doesn't know how to get out and work her
Rubio if you're listening Dude, you would be a national hero if you just stood up
and grew a back So all we want is for we only need a handful of That's it.
We don't need them all. We just need a hand. I've spent a fair bit of time
considering they're not my elected officials writing to these people, saying things
like, "It's never like the mom and me. It's never too late to do the right thing.
You could change your mind. I've written to Usha Vance and said that."
I'll admit, and I'm like, We have a big university near me, which is where I went
to school and my representative is the only major university in his district and I
will call it. I Know you're a fan of University and I have a history degree from
there So if you want to know how your story is gonna be told in history I can
tell I can tell you you're not gonna be remembered favorably in history But if you
want to step up and do the right thing. I tell them that like almost every day.
- I think it's important to give them those invitations because they are just humans
at the end of the day. - They are. - I remember when I was a little kid, my dad's
girlfriend accused me of stealing something from her and I didn't actually, but being
accused of that, it made me feel like, and she just wouldn't back down. She was
just so sure that I had stolen, it was a bingo stamper, like it wasn't even a big
thing. But it not but it made me feel
Like now there was no because she wouldn't listen to me and because she didn't
believe me then it felt What's the point in not stealing from her if she just
thinks that I'm gonna do that? And I didn't steal anything else from her But I
remember thinking that thought when I was a kid going what's the point in doing the
right thing if you're just gonna get Accused of doing the bet What if we see these
cracks and some of these people because some of them you can see they're just evil,
and there's no redemption. You can just see it in their eyes, it's too late.
But some of them, and I think Rubio is one of them, where there is something
there, how can we maybe use our creativity and that divine feminine energy to play
with that and invite them back? Because I think that is a huge part of the work
we have in front of us is healing the divide between and so much of that is like
giving people a chance to come back. This is why I keep saying on social media,
listen Mark, you have always been on the liberal side but all of a sudden now you
want to go play with these guys. If you really want to be the cool guy, if you
want to be the hero, Mr. Zuckerberg, stand up to the end. Yeah. The person that
stands up to the bully is always the coolest person, is always the person that is
remembered best. - And we'll have their back. Think of how many people would be
behind whoever it is that decides to start that wave. - Oh, yeah. Just want,
if you look, the companies that are being proud about being liberal companies are
the ones that are throbbing, like ago. If you just look at Walmart and Target and
Tesla, they're all, everything is sinking right now, but sales -wise,
that's no, is not. Costco just continues to rise week after week because they're
standing up to the bully. And it is so interesting to me because,
and I've said this on social media before, so forgive me, I'm repeating myself, but
I don't know if it's this way in the world, but I do know in the United States
that liberal people are more educated, and so why would you want to piss off the
demographic with the most money? It's so true. It doesn't make sense at a business
point. Yeah. And I don't know about Americans, but Canadians, maybe because maybe
actually you did say you hold a grudge. Canadians will hold a grudge. Canadians are
not going to buy American products again in my lifetime. Not my generation and
probably not my children. Because we've found alternatives now and we've also found
our pride, and we've found like a ticket to the, we're hurt, we're upset, we're
angry, and we're, that's not, I can't even imagine the size of the statue you all
are going to have to make to say sorry. You know what I mean? We had to do
something Or maybe if they kick him out and the other person comes in and is
listening. It was not cool. Yeah. I think we are forgiving. I think, I think,
yeah, I think if a peeper judge or a quarry built or whoever stepped in and
honestly owned up to the mess, then it would be a completely different story.
But there's no way JD says walking in that office After him. There's no way. No,
that's not how it's going to go down. No. Musk is lazing money so rapidly,
he's not going to have the money to buy another presidency. It's just so interesting
that these business people don't understand that, that they don't understand if I was
a big company, like Target or whatever, the very first thing I would have done is
said, "We're Like we and that's going to be our business model. Like we're gonna
And then it inspires the next one to go. Yeah us too. And then the next one goes
asked to and then before you know It's it's a movement. I know. Yeah I Is very
interesting, but it's a lack of Hebrew. Hey, they're so full of their own virtue
They think we can't survive without them when it's the other way around. We have
more options. I would rather pay a tariff from Canada to get a product and I had
to buy one of those countries. On that note, I've had, so I sell my jewelry,
that's my day job, I'm an art jewelry artist and there's a really busy public
market here and it's actually mostly Americans that come through there every year.
It's like the heart of the city and people get off the cruise ships and they get
off the airplane and they go to Granville Island and it's artists and sculptures and
theater, and it's just the most great food and beautiful water views, mountain views,
it's amazing. So I'm lucky enough to sell my jewelry there in the public market.
And I have had so many American customers in the last six weeks say, hey,
listen, we planned a trip special to come here and support you all with our
dollars. Like we wanted to, So there's so many beautiful little moments like that
happen between the two countries. I have no doubt that we will figure out how to
stand together and maybe even figure out how to heal the divide that we each feel
within our own countries, because that's, I'm thinking ahead to how do we now heal
our communities at a small level? How do we share meaning with the person who got
corrupted, who got radicalized? - How do we make room for them to come home? - It's
not until those people suffer enough that they will learn their lesson. And I just
hope the ones who don't need to learn the lessons go as unscathed as possible.
And we can do that with charity, with making sure that we're taking care of our
neighbors and loving one another, building community and offering you safe space for
like -minded individuals to weather the storm. And that's what we're going to do,
is to help one another weather the storm, so that those idiots learn their lesson.
Because I'm not saving. I'm kind of non -compassionate, but I get to choose who I
share that kindness and compassion. >> And actually, I think it's compassionate to
not save them, because that's almost like a co That move because you actually, you
have to get down to the very bottom core of you that led you to make those
choices in the first place, resolve that, and only then can you come here and enjoy
what we've been given. Because if you don't learn that lesson, you don't have the
humility to understand that you shouldn't have preferential treatment and if you're
walking into my community with a chip on your shoulder, like you can just turn
around and go, "I don't know, do whatever you gotta do."
Okay, so I normally close the conversations in these episodes with something I call
the billboard question. This show was founded on this idea that humanity is glitching
and that there's this series of limiting beliefs that we've been fed that were
designed to keep us from our depth. A lot of artists came here listening in for,
"How do I access more of myself so that I can express my creativity better?" And
it's evolved to be a little, it's still that, but now there's the perspective is
bigger. It's actually now this whole thing is being blown open and it's, this is
like extinction burst, patriarchy gets connected and it's evolving. So I used I used
to ask for all the people out there who just feel like, "I don't have what it
takes to be an artist. I don't have a natural gift, I'm too old,
it's too late. I'm not strong enough, I don't have enough community." All the things
that stop somebody from being an artist, the question used to be if you could say
something to them that would, you put on this billboard and somehow these words
would magically reach their heart and have an effect on them? What would you say?
But in the context of this conversation, I wonder if we want to make the Billboard
question similar, but for the person who's walking through this time going,
"I know I'm being tapped to show up in a way that I never imagined in my wildest
dreams. I thought I was just going to have a simple ordinary life where everything
was going to be work hard, enjoy my..." I'm being tapped now to do this much
bigger, beautiful thing, but I don't believe that I'm the one. I don't believe that
I have what it takes. I don't believe that I know how to be a revolutionary. I
don't believe that I know how to walk through the end of patriarchy and create a
beautiful matriarchy. What would you put on a billboard for that person? I would
say, don't try to do the right thing instead of trying to figure out what somebody
else's idea of right is, the correct step, the virtuous step,
instead, listen to your inner purpose and go with the choices that lead you to joy.
When you're faced with two options, go for the one that feels better in your soul.
Your soul will never lead you astray, right? Even if it feels like you made a
mistake, you're going to learn something from that mistake that will help you to
appreciate the correct answer. If you can always go and change your mind at any
time, right? You'll learn something from doing the wrong way that will help the
right way work better. I think you'll have the next step. And it is like bread
crumbs from the universe.
And savor each one. Don't focus on where they lead to. Just focus on enjoying each
one with as much joy and beauty and love as possible.
And let that be your guiding principle. And it will never stir you wrong.
Thank you. Thank you so much for this conversation today. It was exactly the
conversation that my soul needed, and I hope people listening to this too got as
much out of it as I did, because that was medicine for my soul. Thank you. Thank
you. Thank you for having me. I truly appreciated it. Yeah, me too. I often close
the episodes with a variation on the idea of, you know, if you could take one
thing from this episode, and then I tell you what I hope it is. And actually,
today there are eight. So I'm just gonna go through them with you in no particular
order. The matriarchy is the highest good for all. If the patriarchy was all about
control and domination, power, the matriarchy is about the highest good for all,
and it's what we're building together right now. You, you and me. If you're
listening to this episode right now, you're on the team of people creating this new
world. Number two, we have to focus on joy every day.
In fact, we need to see it as our map. Number three, community is not a one -way
You're going to get out of it what you put into it and you got to show up and
you got to be brave and you got to be vulnerable Number four walking outside
barefoot is Magical and can ground you in a really significant way. We should be
making time to do that every day number five life is to savor and enjoy so make
sure you're finding ways to do that number six Your soul will never lead you astray
if you're following your joy and your savoring life and you're committed to enjoying
it. Your soul will never lead you astray. This is how your soul directs you and it
will never lead you astray.
Number seven, ten minutes a day is all it takes, all it takes for whatever it is
you're working on. Pick a thing, do it or 10 minutes a day, keep going.
And number eight, transitions are really hard but this is an important one.
And the payoff at the outside of this is gonna be so beautiful. Keep going and
keep connecting with people around you. We got this.
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